Posted by lolita on November 17, 2002 at 23:49:13:
In Reply to: Re: We live in a "society of the spectacle" posted by goldstein on November 17, 2002 at 22:44:47:
no student loans, only hardworking middle-class parents.
i think it is amusing how most commentary rely on all these common socio-economic doctrines. after-all, native americans and most other "primitive" people didn't really seem to give a shit abt that; economics was a way to survive, not to gain riches.
revolution is a neat term. i once dreamt abt freeing scotland from english imperialist rule. i also thought it would be neat to destroy all american economy.
western hegemony. great. what a spectacle. i laugh when i see girls dressing like sluts because that is what the society wants. i also laugh at the guy that buys a 200 dollar watch to see it break in another week. President Bush? a lovely man, shows that rich america is as dumb as poor corporate-lackey america. Blair? good example of a politician- sell out when they want it.
when i say communism and anarchism are idealistic, i don't stand for capitalism. but i'll tell you, since you seem like sombody who is interested in reading, pick up copies of Plato, Hobbes, and Rousseau. if there could be a conclusion to any of it, a human is selfish. and because (according to the american example, as it is at hand) the powerful oligarchy of corporations will keep the "masses" at bay. after all, what do the people have? they are simple navvys cadging off that powerful elite. campus politics are a muddle, they have been since the 60s. when you look at the situation, both sides are esentially playing a game of play-ground alliances, and whoever has the most people or the strongest people win. and the next day the other group will do the same. eventually, though, they stop the game. if the people are to have an honest revolution, they should do it themselves. now to define an honest revolution . . .
who the hell can? the french revolution was honest: they killed the king and introduced liberal politics before Napolean fucked it over. the American revolution was almost honest: they acheived independance, but constitutionalists and confederationists fought afterwards. the bolshevik revolution wasn't very honest, though, after lenin. Stalin screwed marxism over w/ beaurocracy.
i hate conclusions: life will still continue. i am just being entertained by my cynical nature at the crap going back and forth. if the people want a revolution, great. i am waiting here for someone to come to my door and ask me to take the guns out of my house and burn the books in my room because they are written w/ a bourgeois sentimentality. and i'll gladly let him burn them! if he could say and assure that people will actually cooperate. but in the meantime, i'll look at the monks burning themselves on a street and the vietnamese teen w/ a gun to his head. and think to myself: what a wonderful world.
(post-script: i have no money to go shopping with)